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	<title>Comments on: Using MVG aggregate functions</title>
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		<title>By: stuandgravy</title>
		<link>http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/2007/04/05/using-mvg-aggregate-functions/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>stuandgravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad that works for you Karan :)

I &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; you might be able to avoid the refresh by having the child records present in an MVG on the parent, if the MVG uses the same link as the business object... but it's been a while, so I might not be remembering that right. Hence why I've started writing this stuff down!!

Be interested to hear if you do come up with any improvements...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad that works for you Karan <img src='http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I <em>think</em> you might be able to avoid the refresh by having the child records present in an MVG on the parent, if the MVG uses the same link as the business object&#8230; but it&#8217;s been a while, so I might not be remembering that right. Hence why I&#8217;ve started writing this stuff down!!</p>
<p>Be interested to hear if you do come up with any improvements&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: karan bhambhani</title>
		<link>http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/2007/04/05/using-mvg-aggregate-functions/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>karan bhambhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Nathan re: the error message generated when user tries to change the status of the SR - not very helpful for the end user. (although could be passed as a training issue to avoid users raising a support ticket for it!)

I tried and tested this in my current Project, and the only little hiccup,is that the parent BC needs to be refreshed.

So, from the above example, I have child activities for a Service Request, and once status of all child activities is changed to "Done" , and then try and change the status of the Agreement from the form applet, you still get that message. Ofcourse, the message goes away when you refresh the Form Applet ( the one with Service Request) , and hence lets you change the status of the SR. Good solution overall! I like it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Nathan re: the error message generated when user tries to change the status of the SR - not very helpful for the end user. (although could be passed as a training issue to avoid users raising a support ticket for it!)</p>
<p>I tried and tested this in my current Project, and the only little hiccup,is that the parent BC needs to be refreshed.</p>
<p>So, from the above example, I have child activities for a Service Request, and once status of all child activities is changed to &#8220;Done&#8221; , and then try and change the status of the Agreement from the form applet, you still get that message. Ofcourse, the message goes away when you refresh the Form Applet ( the one with Service Request) , and hence lets you change the status of the SR. Good solution overall! I like it <img src='http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: stuandgravy</title>
		<link>http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/2007/04/05/using-mvg-aggregate-functions/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>stuandgravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed the "First post!" ;)

That's a fair point - State Model errors are pretty indecipherable. Repeating back the rule expression ain't much help to a normal user.

You could do the same sort of thing with Data Validation Manager in later versions of 7 - that allows a custom error. Otherwise I think you're coding it, which has its own drawbacks...

Other options?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed the &#8220;First post!&#8221; <img src='http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
That&#8217;s a fair point - State Model errors are pretty indecipherable. Repeating back the rule expression ain&#8217;t much help to a normal user.</p>
<p>You could do the same sort of thing with Data Validation Manager in later versions of 7 - that allows a custom error. Otherwise I think you&#8217;re coding it, which has its own drawbacks&#8230;</p>
<p>Other options?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blog.notesonsiebel.com/2007/04/05/using-mvg-aggregate-functions/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only thing i would add is isnt the error message from a state model is not ideal? You get a fairly generic error message that doesnt exactly tell you what you havent filled in.

i can stand to be corrected on this however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only thing i would add is isnt the error message from a state model is not ideal? You get a fairly generic error message that doesnt exactly tell you what you havent filled in.</p>
<p>i can stand to be corrected on this however.</p>
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